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Visibility of non flying airspace over cities

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Hello,

One idea for a better knowledge of the environnement will be to add the "non flying airspace" over cities on the vertical profile like other airspace. This would be helpful in densely populated areas or in places with multiple small towns to avoid overflights at too low an altitude.

What do you think ?

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In another navigation app there is a possibility to project your gliding range as a function of airspeed, wind and terrain.

The first general rule for flying is that one always must be able to reach an emergency field.

When this is implemented you are normally high enough above a city to be not bothering anybody on the ground and flying probably higher than the mandatory minimum altitudes.

 

 

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I like the idea about depicting the size of a populated place on the VPV, we do have classifications for many places. I doubt however if its doable to actually cross-section it with the actual geographical layout of the populated place, i

We've had multiple discussions internally about the usability of a gliding range depiction on the moving map, taking the error margins of forecasted wind direction and speed into account. This resulted in significantly different depictions, what made us decide to put it on hold. 

@Rob : I see your reasoning, but the problem then is, where is that reasonable field? This should still have to be depicted on the map to make a judgement if you're at a safe altitude. 

 

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My answer was intended to be positive, but apparently not appreciated. 

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Hello Rob W.

In my case it cas for ultralight or plane use and not gliding .
In my opinion it can be represented in Orange on the VPV like the other airspace. The major issue is that the shape on the city on ground can be pretty tricky unlike usual airspace (look at Grenoble in France...) so maybe the work for every cities can be big.

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Forget about it

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Thank you Rob for the "How to fly" class...
This is not what I ask and neither about the gliding slope of a plane in another apps. I have enough of one apps in my tablets and I prefer to have the most useful information possible on one.

What I ask is a way to identify easily and quickly this kind of airspace to avoid bitting him because French Air Police is quite fussy and we have multiple of example of people just bitting a big city for 500m in and receiving a fee or even a licence suspension.

What you said is true in theory but not always in the reality. Check the map on the Paris region and let me know if you are able to have the necessary altitude to find a field 😶 because you have big airspace on top (over 1500ft AMSL) and towns you have to fly over at a minimum of 3000ft AGL... So quite impossible. 
So at the end the idea is to see the airspace of the city in front of you to help you avoiding it.

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